My quest for new speakers ended up with the Audio Physic Classic 8.
After some 20 years of listening to my Mission 753 Freedom Speakers I wanted something new.
It took me some time to find out what I wanted (sound, budget), to find out what would fit into our home (styling, color, dimensions, placement) and I made up a shortlist (14 different speakers by 11 manufacturers). And it had to match with my all-Cyrus system.
3 dealers in the Netherlands gave me the opportunity to listen to 8 models on the shortlist, in store.
Being very impressed by the Audio Physic Classic 5 which ticked almost all boxes (even at that price) the Hifi Studio Nr. One offered me to get a demo from the Cl8 which would probably fit our living-room better, having to work less-hard to fill the room. As the Cl5 was only the second speaker I heard, I left with the idea of the Cl8 probably be a very good contender. My plan was to hear a lot more speakers and eventually go back to the Cl8. The shortlist got shorter and soon there were 2 left: AP Classic 8 and Dynaudio Evoke 30. To my ears many speakers were a little harsh/tiring in the treble. Metal-dome tweeters and ribbon-tweeters are not for me. That’s why the shortlist melted pretty fast!
At that time (not knowing about these 2 contenders) Eric from the Hifi Studio phoned me and told me the Cl8 was almost ready for a demo. He was so eager to hear the Cl8 that he had already got hold of a set. On Saturday my wife and I listened to the Cl8 and the Evoke 30. In store we decided to almost certainly go for the AP Cl 8, but Eric insisted on giving a home demo.
On a Thursday he delivered the speakers with the plan to pick them up the next Tuesday. But being very busy he called again, to ask me if it was a problem to audition them a little longer. “Make my day, no way!”. Later that week he called me to hear my opinion. I just told him “the Cl 8 is doing great, I want to buy them!” As he had already hoped and expected! Than the bad news: I would have to wait for some 8 weeks. Just as I feared I had to go back to my old speakers he told me he had been able to arrange something: I could use the demo-set for the time it took to deliver. Would we have chosen the demo-color I could have kept them but it took a while to get the Black-Ash set ready for delivery. Lucky again, that is!
The demo speakers got better all the time. Relaxed sound, lots of detail, great soundstage. The Mission speakers gave a 2-dimensional stage, but the Cl8 made it 3-dimensional and a lot wider. I was able to hear tiny sounds I never realized before. Don’t blame the 20 year old Missions, which were great back than!
The Cl8 were ‘only’ on DCF II M8 feet and it would be very easy to get more out of the speakers using the VCF II or even the VCF II Magnetic feet. I decided to take my chances and chose the non-magnetic. For me the price difference between these two feet was too big and the cost-ratio speakers-to-feet was a bit better this way and we didn’t like the size of the magnetic’s. We even decided to use the ‘component’-version and not the M8. We didn’t like the way the M8 protruded the base of the speakers. Thanks for the tip, Vincent.
At last on July 21th 2020 Eric called me again, to tell me the speakers had arrived (together with the feet) and that same day he delivered the goods!
After having used the CL8 for about 7 weeks than, it was clear that they could best be placed (only!) 30 centimeters from the rear wall, with a little toe-in. Eric helped me position them on the feet and then the party began. Probably because of the better feet they started on a level I had not heard from the demo version in all that time! Even ‘out of the box’ the difference was easy to tell. And they got better! Now that they are 4 weeks ‘old’ I think they won’t get much better anymore.
It’s an absolute pleasure to listen to the Audio Physic Classic 8 (#228) and I can absolutely recommend them to everyone. Do yourself a favor and try the VCF II feet as well. Sure you will hear the difference.
Many thanks to Eric and Vincent from the Hifi Studio Nr. One and the people at Audio Physic who answered all my questions while being in the beautiful process of buying new speakers. It was a great journey selecting them! Listening to the Audio Physic Classic 8 is an even greater pleasure, which I hope will take 20 years again!
Dear Audio Physic team,
It has been exactly two weeks since the day that I was able to receive my own pearl-white pair of Midex: These audio physic creations already convinced me during the test phase. Where I always had something to criticize about other competitor products - be it a tweeter that was too brilliant for me, or too sharp, of a ribbon-dome hybrid, a prominent and easy-going bass of a transmission line, something was always. Sometimes too sonorous, sometimes too introverted at quieter levels - there were none of these deficits taken individually at Midex.
For me it turned out to be an “overall best pick” in this class, on top of that it offered a translucent clarity and differentiation that I had never seen before from any other loudspeaker. And I really heard a lot - maybe to the disappointment of my wife, who accompanied me to several events and listening sessions and whose patience I strained with new ideas (I love my wife) Spaciousness combined with extremely high plasticity and localization sharpness are top disciplines of this exceptional loudspeaker.
Breathtaking how sensitively the finest sound events are offered, that gave goosebumps and sincere: tears of emotion. Thank you for this dear Audio Physic Team! Your Midex pulls me emotionally fully into the music. I can let myself be carried away by the flow of music or alternatively I can pause and focus on the details in the music. Simply sensational! We also equipped my couple Midex with the VCF II magnetic feet. I immediately noticed that the playback was somehow reassured compared to the demo Midex, which I was allowed to listen to intensively for a month.
When Wolfgang asked me what I was going to hear, I couldn't think of a better explanation: one can imagine the effect in such a way that the complete decoupling from the floor, the speaker both calms down from unwanted vibrations and literally in his Nailed position. I attribute the clearly audible effect that spatiality and plasticity really increase again to the lower variance in the local position of the chassis. The chassis are simply more point source. It's like looking at a flickering or still candle flame.
Due to the trembling play of light and shadow, the surrounding space appears diffuse or even distorted and in the other case significantly sharper with a higher contrast between light and shadow. You can really experience this musically and with this the VCF magnetic deserve my unreserved recommendation. I would even go so far as to push the speakers into even higher classes, the difference with the VCF magnetic feet is so clear. If the reader should be faced with the choice: just try it out!
Finally, I would like to thank the entire team at Audio Physic again. It's great to see and hear how passionate you are about music and audiophilia. Leonardo da Vinci is said to be the sentence: "It's trifles that make perfection, but perfection is anything but a trifle." You can see and feel this in your products.
Nothing but music I can now experience it every day with Midex # 108 - many thanks for that! Wolfgang, I would like to expressly thank you again for your commitment and the friendly VIP service in the form of personal handover, assistance with unpacking and setting up. I am looking forward to getting to know you personally and therefore Audio Physic. It was a great moment for me that I remember fondly.
Now it has become a very long email, but I just had to get rid of it. It is time for me to "put on a disk again and turn it up"
Best audiophile greetings, stay healthy and please keep it up
Hello Mr. Lücke,
First of all I would like to thank you again very much for your very nice, personal support! Conclusion - after a few days: The "Action" Audio Physic Virgo III "INDIVIDUAL" was successful - I am thrilled with the speakers, both in terms of sound and design. The speakers look, for me, quite exclusive, in terms of format a bit no higher, but wider, stockier and therefore larger than the Avanti. (what am I going to tell you?) The desired similarity / relationship with the Avanti is immediately audible. The Virgo III is also fairly linear / neutral (perhaps not quite as much as the Avanti) and impulse-true like the Avanti.
In my view, both speakers manage to combine richness of detail and homogeneity like only a few. This is the only way to finally enjoy and enjoy music for a longer period of time “correctly” as well as effortlessly. So much for the similarity of the two speakers. But what distinguishes the Virgo III from the Avanti - and places it clearly above this - is the sovereignty of its sound.
In detail - the tweeter is very high quality, the tweeter / midrange unit is unbreakable and excellent (very important). The biggest difference lies in the size and spatial depth of their sound. And - the bass / bass: excellent! Deep and space-filling. The sound distribution in the room is just as excellent and unproblematic as with the Avanti. The difference between the integrated subwoofer on the one hand and the side bass drivers on the other hand is not audible. (Which was a bit of a concern of mine) The bass / bass of the Virgo III is not only bigger, stockier than that of the Avanti, but also a bit softer. Here the Avanti is a bit more impulsive / faster.
So much for my “short review” of the Virgo III - combined with my thanks again to you and your dedicated employees. I wish Audio Physic that you or your dealers can continue to convince many hi-fi friends and customers of the unquestionably high quality of your speakers - and I refer to their sound properties as well as the processing / design.
You - and the speakers - deserve it. From numerous (often intensive) listening sessions I know a not inconsiderable number of high-quality loudspeakers (at any price), including, in my view, the "real" "stars" of the international hi-fi world. And, I know - and this probably distinguishes me from most hi-fi and music lovers - many "studio" speakers, near and midfield monitors, including leading to exclusive products such as Genelec, Mackie, Adam Audio, ATC or PMC. I say this because, as is well known, studio monitors are primarily "required" to have a linear / neutral sound characteristic and high impulse fidelity. I have been used to this neutral, to a certain extent "correct" sound characteristic of loudspeakers with friends of mine - musicians / composers.
Here - you allow me to go far, Mr. Lücke - I stretch the bow to the speakers from Audio Physic (Reference Line). Their speakers show wonderfully that the aforementioned sound characteristics - I call them supreme disciplines - which sometimes lead to a somewhat objective, sterile sound image in studio monitors, do not rule out a committed, involving, timbre-rich and nuanced style of playing at all. A kind of universal way of playing, which many listeners / music lovers should enjoy. (the sentence is not from an advertising agency)
Dear Audio Physic Team, I have been the proud owner of a Tempo Plus since Saturday and I am absolutely thrilled. After 7 years I separated from the Classic 10. As an entry-level speaker, I was very happy with it, but the Tempo is another house number. Together with a Rotel CD player and Cambridge CX80 integrated amplifier, this is a fantastic music experience. Thank you for making such world-class speakers that are visually and technically excellent. Made in Germany at its finest!
Dear AP team,
Having owned pair no. 11 of the Cardeas 30 Limited Jubilee Edition for a little more than a year now, I am writing to express my gratitude to your company and specifically your design team around Manfred Diestertich. The Cardeas 30 LJE speakers have elevated my music listening enjoyment immensely. With their intelligent and sophisticated technology, using suspended drivers and a number of very innovative and effective vibration control techniques, they are able to convey a musical experience which is utterly close to a live performance. In that regard, very important and impressive is the quality of deep bass, reproduced by two large push-push woofers built in the sides of the relatively compact cabinets.
The Cardeas is certainly one of the most transparent and natural sounding speakers, creating this elusive "it sounds just right" feeling. Even compared to other Audio Physic speakers it appears that the Cardeas is the ultimate expression of your company motto "no loss of fine detail". It reproduces an incredible amount of three-dimensionality, ambience and air I never knew existed on my recordings, not to mention a wealth of acoustic details previously unheard. Even more stunning is how all of this information is delivered by the six drivers coherently as an organic whole within a truly believable soundstage, resulting in an incredibly convincing musical performance in my home. The tonality and timbre of voices and instruments are rendered so true to the original, that the listening experience becomes uncannily realistic and natural sounding, both in complex orchestral and choral music as well as in intimate solo performances.
The Cardeas 30 LJE speakers are a true revelation to me. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Thank you sincerely for having created such a wonderful product.
Dear Audio Physic Team,
since a few weeks I am the proud owner of the Classic Line 15 JBL from Auditorium Münster. Thanks to the anniversary Day Event and the great support of Mr. Lill, I was able to test the speakers extensively in the shop and at home. That was important for me, because my premises do not offer optimal conditions.
They are operated by an AVM Inspiron C8. The power supply is via Transparent Audio High Performance Power. The Audio Physic Classic are powered by the new inakustik reference LS-804 Air Speaker cables.
The natural sound and the unadulterated reproduction of the music fascinate me again and again. Especially voices and acoustic musical instruments are reproduced in a wonderfully colourless and unexciting way. The matching speaker feet VCF II Magnetic Plus are already ordered :-).
Thanks to the uncritical placement possibility, the integration into the home is made easier. Despite the pitch of the roof and the proximity to the wall, the speakers play freely and airily. Many thanks to Mr. Dirk Rühl for the great finishing and sound experience of the 116 B loudspeaker pair. "No loss of fine detail". Well done !
Again many thanks in advance and many greetings to the team,
Your Michael Kater
form the German Trade Magazine VOLUME - Technic Music Emotion
The smaller the company, the more fascinating the products: In the middle of Germany, a manufacturer creates loudspeakers that, strictly speaking, are not allowed to sound. And this is precisely why music lovers all over the world are enthralled.
BY KLAUS-PETER BREDSCHNEIDER
The brains behind Audio Physic: Chief designer Manfred Diestertich is tirelessly looking for new material combinations, Managing Director Wolfgang Lücke in the picture on the right with ceramic foam, which Audio Physic successfully applies inside the enclosures
One may ask Manfred Diestertich many questions – but not the one about how his speakers sound. For more than 20 years now, Diestertich has been responsible for the product portfolio of Audio Physic, a speaker manufacturer located in the town of Brilon in Germany’s Sauerland region. The brand enjoys cult status far beyond the German-speaking countries. Diestertich himself has an excellent reputation as chief designer, regardless of whether he is visiting dealers in Norway or a trade fair in distant China. Audio Physic employs just a dozen people at the company's headquarters – including temporary staff – and is therefore the best proof of the often underestimated fact that the size of a company does not necessarily allow conclusions to be drawn about its importance. Brilon with its 30,000 inhabitants, located right in the middle of Germany and quite far away from the nearest motorway junction, promises pure enjoyment of nature, but also impresses with full employment. With its midmarket specialists, the region is economically well positioned, thus offering Audio Physic an enormous benefit. So, let’s switch back to the original question, why loudspeakers from Audio Physic don’t sound. Or better: Why they shouldn't sound! Or, to wrap it in more descriptive words: Why you shouldn't hear the actual loudspeaker. This may sound quite absurd to the inexperienced music listener, but it sums up the brand's sound philosophy quite precisely: it's the music that plays – and not the loudspeaker. From the very beginning, almost 35 years ago, the loudspeaker creators from the Sauerland have prompted their listeners to take their seat relatively close to the speakers, which then were quite heavily angled inwards. This kind of positioning in a triangle that no longer was isosceles, which, at least for that time, was somewhat revolutionary, was intended to have the sound sources themselves no longer being perceived acoustically. Instead, the listener found himself in a three-dimensional sound space. And, the point of the story was that the designers managed to actually keep their promise. Even though, however, the loudspeaker wasn’t probably reinvented in the Sauerland, but listening to music has been given a major boost here. Sitting relatively close, listening in a different way, that's what makes the brand so charming and explains their loyal following among audiophiles around the globe.
Manfred Diestertich is not a storyteller, and a material fetishist either. In an objective and rational manner he explains why it is most important to him to combine materials in such a way that no vibrations or resonances arise. His goal is to rule out negative sonic effects: "The aim is not only the inaudible, but also the absolutely impermeable cabinet. The ideal enclosure is one through which absolutely no sound can penetrate. Imagine a double-glazed window in which the insulating cavity acts as a sound barrier. Diestertich has transferred this type of sandwich construction to the loudspeaker cabinet – a permanently elastic acrylic adhesive tape is applied to the MDF cabinet, onto which a glass pane is pressed. The sandwich composite of wood and glass makes the cabinet absolutely resonance-free. "Actually, it amazes me,“ so the material wizard Diestertich admits, „that nobody has drawn up this idea yet.“ "We are still the only ones, which manufacture loudspeaker enclosures using this material mix from wood and glass,“ underlines also Wolfgang Lücke, joint owner and managing director of the innovative speaker specialists. Lücke himself comes from the musical instrument sector, he used to manage the Musikmesse Frankfurt for many years, the largest of its kind in the world, and has also attended in that capacity countless live concerts. He has always been an avowed hi-fi enthusiast, and now in his function at Audio Physic he has dedicated himself to the task of "transporting the musical experience into the home with all its senses", logically backed by Audio Physic's slogan: "Real loudspeakers for real music lovers". The yardstick for the quality of music reproduction must always be the live experience. Manfred Diestertich formulates the claim even more provocatively: "Our focus is on the music, the loudspeakers are always just a means to an end." As a result, they both describe what Audio Physic loudspeakers have been enabled to do right from the very beginning. And that has become the DNA of the brand from the German Hochsauerland region, if we would like to strain that commonly applied marketing term: It’s about the almost holographic entitlement of immersing into the music. "It’s the spatial imaging that makes me instantly recognize our loudspeakers," Manfred Diestertich explains, thus emphasizing another characteristic: "Our loudspeakers are completely uncritical to their positioning. Whether close to the wall or further away – the sound always fills the whole room." Last, but not least, the designer attaches great importance to the fact that his loudspeakers neither do lay down excessive demands on the positioning in the room, nor do they on the power rating of the amplifier: "We don’t give any recommendations for amplifiers, our loudspeakers play with almost everything that gets in their way. Audio Physic, of course, can't defy the laws of physics either: the bigger the room, the bigger and more expensive the loudspeakers should be, so the men from the Sauerland recommend.
By the way, a further special feature of the loudspeaker cabinets from the Sauerland region is the deliberate use of ceramic foam, a filter material chemically produced from fired sand and developed in Germany for iron casting, looking like a solidified sponge and working real wonders inside the cabinet in terms of acoustic damping. The drivers are sourced from the Far East specialist Wavecor, where they are manufactured by Danish developers according to Audio Physic’s special requirements. This also ensures the exclusivity of the drivers, which you won't find in any other loudspeaker. While Wolfgang Lücke commutes to his family in Frankfurt at the weekend and uses his spare time during the week mainly to explore the hilly Sauerland by mountain bike, not only the employees, but also a major part of the suppliers come from the nearer surroundings. These are grown, usually friendly relationships. The wooden sandwich cabinets, for example, are manufactured in the Josefsheim Bigge, a facility with a workshop that also employs people with disabilities. This is another reason why Audio Physic, despite its international fan base, remains deeply rooted in its home country. And Lücke states: "Transplanting wouldn’t only be a loss of culture, but also a loss of competence – after all, there is no such thing as the profession of loudspeaker builder". By the way, the constructive knowledge and the material expertise not only benefit the acoustics, but also the visual design: With materials such as the aforementioned ceramic foam inside, Audio Physic can keep the appearance of the loudspeakers relatively slender, so that they avoid themselves to take centre stage in the living room in a too opulent way. But the sandwich structure of the cabinets in conjunction with their glass panelling can also play out another decisive advantage here, as it allows deep glossy surfaces in all RAL colour grades. The loudspeaker thus becomes a full-fledged piece of furniture and a true eye-catcher, and a sound furniture, which is manufactured exclusively in Germany by hand with a clear mission: To awake feelings and generate emotions.
"No loss of fine detail" is Audio Physic's creed for the reproduction of music – pursuant to this every detail is carefully developed, selected and then assembled by hand in Brilon